aryan skrev:
Volvo-Berti skrev:
the regulations Ceyal talked about are called "ADR" and mean the regulations of transporting dangerous goods on streets.
That may be so but the text just talks about essence (=petrol) and not "superethanol" (=E85) or any other fluid that could burn like diesel, kerosine, oil, paint, conjac etc. One could argue that E85 contains some "essence" though, which of course is true, even more complicated it gets as the same rules apply to cars with empty jerrycans.
no, the ADR talks about "combustible fluids" and "fuels". you can really believe me, i must make the training to become a risk prevention officer (in substitution) the last years several times

E85 is a dangerous good under the regulations of the ADR. until it gets its own UN-number E85 must be transported as UN 1993 "ethanol solution".
Volvo-Berti skrev:
i know them, too, but they differ a little in each country, caused by the option to become regulated stronger by the administration
the ADR says the maximum of transport is NOT 333 L, its 60L!! in a transport unit (car or whatever).
to transport 333L you must have a special licence to transport dangerous goods!!
aryan skrev:
I think you should rely on Ceyals translation, French is his mother tongue after all

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please see above, in the ADR it is not allowed to transport more than 60 L fuels (any kind)
here the ADR in German, the content in other languages is the same
1.1.3.3 Freistellungen in Zusammenhang mit der Beförderung von flüssigen Kraftstoffen
Der Kraftstoff darf in befestigten Kraftstoffbehältern, die direkt mit dem Fahrzeugmotor und/oder der Einrichtung verbunden sind und den entsprechenden gesetzlichen Vorschriften entsprechen, oder in tragbaren Kraftstoffbehältern wie Kanistern befördert werden.that means that it is allowed to transport Kraftstoff (=fuel) in fixed tanks/reservoirs, which are connected directly to the engine, or in portable fuel cans, like jerrycans.
Der gesamte Fassungsraum der befestigten Behälter darf 1500 Liter je Beförderungseinheit und der Fassungsraum eines auf einem Anhänger befestigten Behälters darf 500 Liter nicht überschreiten. [b]Je Beförderungseinheit dürfen höchstens 60 Liter in tragbaren Kraftstoffbehältern befördert werden.this means that the maximum of the fixed tanks is 1500L per transport unit and 500l max. in a fixed tank on a trailer. the fat written sentence says that the maximum for portable fuel cans for any transport unit is 60L!
aryan skrev:
Volvo-Berti skrev:
the rest was written by Ceyal
It also says that you may not open the jerrycans in the vehicle, hence my filling inside the car is was allowed, at least not with petrol, and that the car may not transport "other matters", hmmm that is a little problem then

The jerrycans should be well attached in the car, the car must be well ventilated, you are not allowed to have open fire or o smoke in the car and one should drive extra careful to evade an accident
yeah, just a problem in a station wagon....the ventilation always concerns the persons in the car. open fire or smoking is no problem for me as a non-smoker.
but who wants nearly open fuel cans in his back without any metal between the fuel and the inner room??
aryan skrev:
Volvo-Berti skrev:
btw: in Germany its allowed to store 20 L in a cellar, but not in floors, on balkonies, roofs etc.
Are you referring to any fluid or just petrol. A lot of people probably have more water, oil, wine, brandy, paint etc in their cellars...
/Aryan
yeah, this regulation i have meant is the TRbF 20, the "Technische Regeln für brennbare Flüssigkeiten", in English "technical regulations for combustible fluids . this is a German regulation.